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14. John4 TOCHER (George3, William2, James1) (#122) was born Meikle Rothie, Fyvie parish, Aberdeenshire, Scotland before 26 June 1767. John died 10 February 1855 Aberchirder, Marnoch parish, Banffshire, Scotland, at 87 years of age.(383) Marnoch, 161/4 John TOCHER Age - 89, Labourer, male Date of Death - 10 February 1855 Place of Death - Aberchirder Where born and how long in this district - Marnoch 89 yrs Marital Status - Was married twice 1. Elizabeth Hay - James 54, Jane 52, John died 1840, Elizabeth died, William died 1841, Margaret 43, Helen deceased 2. Jane Craib - no children by 2nd marriage Father's Name and Occupation - Not Known Mother's Name and Occupation - Margaret TOCHER, deceased, Farm Servant, Maiden Surname - TOCHER Cause of Death - Catarrh (4 days) as certified by Wm Adamson, Medical Practitioner who saw deceased Feb 11 1855 Informant - George CHALMERS, Grandson, (his X mark) Witnessed by James Cruickshank, servant, Manse of Marnoch and James Smith Jnr, Brae of Ardmillie Date & Place of Registration - Feb 12 1855, Marnoch Buried in Marnoch Churchyard as Certified by John Ogg, Sexton

His body was interred after 10 February 1855 Marnoch, Marnoch parish, Banffshire, Scotland, Kirkyard.(384)

He married Isobel Elizabeth HAY about 1787. (Isobel Elizabeth HAY is #123.) Isobel was born Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire, Scotland about 1767. Isobel was the daughter of HAY. Isobel died after 1808.

He was baptized Meikle Rothie, Fyvie parish, Aberdeenshire, Scotland, 26 June 1767. Religion: Church of Scotland.(385) "June 26th. 1767, George Tocher in Meikle Rothie had a son baptized named John. Witnesses; Alex. Ruddiman and James McRobb, both there."

He resided Aberchirder, Marnoch parish, Banffshire, Scotland 30 March 1851, Back st.(386) Census Banffshire Marnoch 1851 Aberchirder, Back St John TOCHER, Head, Widr, 83, Pauper, formerly Ag Lab, Born Fyvie, Aberdeen Jean TOCHER, Daur, Wid, 44, Various Employment, Forgue, Abd Joseph CHALMERS, Grandson, Unm, 16, Farm Serv, Marnoch, Banff Jean CHALMERS, Granddr, Mar, ?22, Visitor Wife, Marnoch, Banff Alexander CRAIG, G Grandchild. 2, Marnoch, Banff

John TOCHER and Isobel Elizabeth HAY had the following children:

child 17 i. Jane5 TOCHER (#32) was born Commisty, Forgue parish, Aberdeenshire, Scotland before 27 April 1796. Jane died 29 November 1872 Aberchirder, Marnoch parish, Banffshire, Scotland, at 76 years of age.(387) Her body was interred after 29 November 1872 not known where buried.(388) She married John CHALMERS about 1816. (John CHALMERS is #31.) John was born Muiryhill, Alvah parish, Banffshire, Scotland 26 March 1795.(389) John was the son of Alexander CHALMERS and Janet BARCLAY. John died before 31 March 1851 Aberchirder, Marnoch parish, Banffshire, Scotland, at approximately 56 years of age.(390) His wife, Jane Tocher, a widow.

His body was interred before 31 March 1851 Aberchirder, Marnoch parish, Banffshire, Scotland. (See John CHALMERS for the continuation of this line.)

She was baptized Commisty, Forgue parish, Aberdeenshire, Scotland, 27 April 1796. Religion: Church of Scotland.(391) "27 Of April 1796: John Tocher in Commisty had a daughter baptized named Jane. Wit. James Cruicshank and James Hay both there."

Jane's occupation: Spinner of linen Aberchirder, Marnoch parish, Banffshire, Scotland, 7 June 1841.(392) She resided Aberchirder, Marnoch parish, Banffshire, Scotland 30 March 1851, Back St.(393) Census Banffshire Marnoch 1851 Aberchirder, Back St John TOCHER, Head, Widr, 83, Pauper, formerly Ag Lab, Born Fyvie, Aberdeen Jean TOCHER, Daur, Wid, 44, Various Employment, Forgue, Abd Joseph CHALMERS, Grandson, Unm, 16, Farm Serv, Marnoch, Banff Jean CHALMERS, Granddr, Mar, ?22, Visitor Wife, Marnoch, Banff Alexander CRAIG, G Grandchild. 2, Marnoch, Banff

Jane or Jean TOCHER

Birth: None available. Her eldest child born 1819 therefore was married 1818 or before, was 20 years of age or more, so born 1798 or before. All her children were born in Marnoch parish. Baptism see my External Folder Extracts/census 1851 no.35 Marnoch parish. This census (name spelt Jean) is the lead as to who and where her father was, and where he was born.This indicates that her father was a John Tocher born about 1768 in Fyvie parish. Her mother is not mentioned. There are two listings of baptisms in the baptismal book for Forgue and consequently there are two records for the person we are looking for. Her name is given as "Jean"in the first record and "Jane" in the second all else being the same. I have photocopies of both actual records. See External Folder: Extracts/Baptisms nos.14,15 (actual record) Her mother is found by finding all the children of the father in Forgue parish, where witnesses to the baptism help to indicate the correct family. The place of father's residence and place of baptism, also help. The baptism of Jean/Jane 27-4-1796, The witnesses were james Cruickshank and james Hay both residing in the same place as the father, namely Commisty. Another child has the same witnesses and like Jean/Jane no mention of the mother but a third child John has the mother's name mentioned as isobel HAY and one change in the witnesses namely Peter Cran for James Hay. Notice the mother's name is the same as one of the witnesses "Hay". It is probable that isobel Hay was also jean/jane's mother but is not certain. Peter Chalmers (Ayr) ID: 736, told me that her death cert. shows her mother as "Elizabeth" informant being - her son, william. Wedding: None found but baptismal records of children and census 1851 show that she was married. Death: see External Folder: Extracts/Marriages no. 14 marriage of her son James, She is mentioned in this as alive while her husband is mentioned as deceased. So death was after this date 11 April 1863. See External Folder: Extracts/Census 39 This indicates that she was alive in census of '61,'71 but probably not in '81. See External Folder: Extracts/Death no. 2 date of cert. 29 November 1872 Occupation: In the census 1841 described as "spinner of linnen residing at South St Abirchirder. In 1861 and '71 as a knitter residing North St. Aberchirder. North St was known locally as Back St.

child 18 ii. Margaret TOCHER (#168) was born Commisty, Forgue parish, Aberdeenshire, Scotland before 30 May 1800. She was baptized Commisty, Forgue parish, Aberdeenshire, Scotland, 30 May 1800. Religion: Church of Scotland.(394) The following individuals are also linked to this event: James HAY there (witness); Jas CRUICKSHANK there (witness).

child 19 iii. John TOCHER (#169) was born Commisty, Forgue parish, Aberdeenshire, Scotland before 1 August 1803. He was baptized Commisty, Forgue parish, Aberdeenshire, Scotland, 1 August 1803. Religion: Church of Scotland.(395) " John lawful son of John Tocher and Isobel Hay in Commisty was baptized 1st. August 1803. Wit. James Cruickshank, Peter Cran, both in Commisty."

child 20 iv. Helen TOCHER (#244) was born Chapeltown, Marnoch parish, Banffshire, Scotland before 16 January 1806. She was baptized Chapeltown, Marnoch parish, Banffshire, Scotland, 19 January 1806. Religion: Church of Scotland.

child 21 v. William TOCHER (#170) was born Chapeltown, Marnoch parish, Banffshire, Scotland 2 November 1808. He was baptized Chapeltown, Marnoch parish, Banffshire, Scotland, 14 November 1808. Religion: Church of Scotland.

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